SamJudie
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 Greetings Fellow Home Owners!
Isn't it TIME we all SHINE A LIGHT on these corrupt HOA Managers, Collection Agencies and Reserve Specialists?
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HighBeams
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It time to turn the light on the uncaring Association Boards of Directors who ignore the health and safety of their residents by failing to properly disinfect the swimming pools used by the senior residents who may have incontinent bowl problems. It has been reported that some of the largest senior homeowner associations are jeopardizing the health and welfare of their residents by routinely adding caustic chemicals to the pool water instead of draining the pool water that has been contaminated. Of course the Board members don’t do the work themselves, they have their hired help do the actual work involved to test for contaminants and make the determination whether to drain the pool or to use additional chemicals to counter act the health hazard. Lets see if the light can see into the future. At 72 years old grandpa is really a lucky guy. He’s healthy and active and he lives in an HOA where he enjoys swimming laps every day. Go grandpa – go. One day grandpa noticed he had some skin problems that would never seem to heal, and he also noticed his hearing was not what it used to be. Poor grandpa. At 73 years old grandpa died on the operating table. He suffered from an inner ear infection that was determined to caused by a mysterious agent that is usually found only in human waste. Good bye grandpa. Before grandpa passed away, some smart young lawyer found out that the pool water had been analyzed and treated by some guy who’s only credentials were that he had formerly been a janitor. Go Mr. lawyer – go. |
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Robroy33
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Dear Highbeams,
I think your message is right on target. I hope the reader realizes that Grandpa is hypothetical.
Your point is great.
Thank you,
Bob Robey
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HighBeams
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To: Robroy33; Yes – "hypothetical" is grandpa’s first name. The guy who’s only credentials were that he had formerly been a janitor may be more "real" than one would think though. Think about it. At your HOA does anyone know the credentials of the people who decide whether or not to drain the pools is a trained professional? At least at the City and/or the County pools they probably have accredited people who make those judgements, but at homeowner associations Joe the Plumber’s signature would probably be accepted. When it comes to the HOA’s - It’s just anther case of "Whatever we decide is OK". |
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HighBeams
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I’m becomming more and more aware that there may be thousands of homeowners who live in HOA’s that have been mistreated by their Board of Directors and/or their Management Company. I am one of those people, and I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more. If there is anyone out there who is reading this message and has also been mistreated and want to share their story here, to them I say; Now is the time to act. The combined forces of Jonathan Freidrich, TV Channel 13, and this Forum has opened a door that will never be shut until the light of exposure floods into the darkest corners of the Homeowner Associations who take advantage of the "Homeowner Unfriendly" regulations to wreak havoc in our lives. As for me, I’m more than ready and willing to stand up and be counted. I will not be silenced, even though I have been threatened by my Association Board Members. If the interviewers on Channel 13 TV want to talk to me, all they have to do is ask. At a workshop meeting conducted by the Nevada Department of Real Estate on November 19, 2010, I submitted the following statement to be included in the minutes of that meeting. ‘--------------------------------------------------------------- My name is XXXXXX and I live in Henderson Nevada in one of the largest homeowner associations in the State of Nevada.
I’m here today to add my voice to the growing numbers of Nevada homeowners who are becomming resentful of the ineffective resolution results of the Real Estate Division when decisions are made that involve the rights of the homeowners when they have a legitimate complaint against thier Association Board of Directors.
Perhaps you may have watched a recent editorial on television that featured a new Homeowner Website called "The HOA Advocate". Today I want to assure you that in the days ahead you will become more and more aware of this website as it continues to attract the hundreds of thousands of Nevada homeowners who are "mad as hell and they’re not going to take it any more" Now -- you might be asking "Why should the Nevada Real Estate Division be concerned about a website?
Here is my answer;
"The website provides something that has been lacking in the past and it’s been sorely needed. The most amazing thing about this website is the results that have all ready been recorded."
Why is it growing in popularity so fast, and why is it becoming a force to be reckoned with? The answer is pretty simple;
It’s because the website is shining a light on some of the most oppressive homeowner associations in the State of Nevada – and at the same time the same light is exposing some of the homeowner unfriendly decisions that have been enacted in the past. That light IS NOT going to be extinguished. On the contrary, if anything, it will become brighter and extend further.
Today we learn that you are considering changing the anti homeowner ADR process. I think its time to begin to consider the rights of the Nevada homeowners who need your co-operation instead of facing more costly expense in resolving simple disputes that can escalate into tens of thousands of dollars that are then forced upon the unsuspecting homeowner.
XXXXX XXXXXX
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SamJudie
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Sam;
This deserves an "Honorable Mention" on hoa1234! Celest Bove is one of our "Unity" Board members who needs to "brush up" on her knowledge of NRS and NAC Statutes and how they apply to the Board’s "Fidutiary Duty". Her picture may be on facebook just like Troia’s was.
Take note of the last paragraph.
Hang on Baby, it’s going to be a bumpy ride!!
NMc
View Topic by Rana Goodman on Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:50 pm
Is there no end to the amazing arrogance of our board? A few weeks ago, just after Dave Servello was elected Chief of the Security Patrol, now named "Patrol", I heard that the board was not going to approve him having the position. All kinds of innocuous reasons were mentioned including the fact that he had been seen at the Henderson City Hall in his uniform. That one I found amusing since all the board had to say was, "Dave we don’t want you to do that again" but, I have also seen many of our patrol members at City Hall in uniform at one time or another.
Today Celeste Bove’s stated that the board could not approve someone who was suing them. Well, Dave is NOT suing them, he did what is his right as a resident of this or any other HOA community, he filed a complaint or rather an intervention affidavit with the Ombudsman’s office. I must caution Ms. Bove’ that her statement, made in public, is retaliatory in nature and NRS 116 absolutely and specifically forbids that.
Once again we have a situation where a volunteer body of this community elects a leader and confirmation of that leadership, just like the addition of a committee member, should be a matter of procedure by our board of directors. Once again these seven self-righteous ELECTED leaders have decided that only they know what, who and why anyone shall serve. …
I’m so glad to see the unrest finally taking to the Internet from HOA's all over the country as our lawmakers get ready to convene. God willing, this will be the year of change for the better. From Florida to California web sites are joining every day and they are speaking out and standing tall. They are contacting media and politicians and making waves…… Stay tuned.
Rana
OK Kids? Share with us someone in your HOA that you would like to: "Put The Spot Light On"! Share with us! Make a Post!
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bbaxter44
Registered: 11/19/10
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"Today Celeste Bove’s stated that the board could not approve someone who was suing them. Well, Dave is NOT suing them, he did what is his right as a resident of this or any other HOA community, he filed a complaint or rather an intervention affidavit with the Ombudsman’s office. I must caution Ms. Bove’ that her statement, made in public, is retaliatory in nature and NRS 116 absolutely and specifically forbids that."
Interesting observation. Of course filing an intervention affidavit is not a lawsuit, neither is pursuing mediation or arbitration by way of an Alternative Dispute Resolution/Residential Planned Communities Claim Form. Had this debate during an HOA meeting a few years ago with CAI founder John Leach, our HOA (board) attorney. He insisted that arbitration was a lawsuit while I maintained that it is an alternative to a lawsuit. Why call it alternative dispute resolution (ADR) if it isn't an alternative? Have to admit that Leach won. The crowd was enraged. At that point I could have claimed that the sun will come up in the morning and been called a liar. Leach is crafty and knows how to turn the uninformed masses against you. If I didn't have this all on tape, I wouldn't have written it.
As far as filing a retaliation complaint. Good luck with that. The Ombudsman's office has had mine since last spring. All based on documents, no he said, she said. Haven't heard boo from them.
The way to reform the system is exactly what you folks are doing. Casting the light of day on a corrupt system stacked against the individual homeowner is what the (fill in the blank) understand.
Bruce
PS: At the time, Leach was working in an advisory capacity for the Real Estate Division.
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Robroy33
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bbaxter44
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Bob Robey:
As I am sure you are aware, the Real Estate Division contracts out to law firms seminars for the purpose of training HOA board members and community management professionals. Currently the law firm of Wolf, Rifkin, Shapiro, Schulman & Rabkin have the contract and one of their paralegals, Sara E. Barry who works directly for Michael Schulman, actually teaches the seminars. A few years ago, Santoro, Driggs, Walch, Kearney, Johnson & Thompson had this same contract. A member of their firm was John E. Leach and he told me that he taught seminars for the NRED. Leach and I would actually communicate before he figured out I wasn't going to cave and keep after our HOA until they came into compliance. Leach now has his own law firm, Leach, Johnson, Song & Gruchow.
Also, Mike Lim, a former field officer for the Ombudsman office told me that they consulted with Leach. This goes back to 2005, but Mike who was a former cop told me that he once asked Leach how he could give advice on interpretation of NRS 116 and then defend or try to help his clients circumvent it. Now that I think about it, I had these same type conversations with Leach and correspondence to him regarding this type of concern. Mike didn't stick with the Ombudsman office very long. I could tell he was very conflicted by what he experienced.
As most of you know, I am a big critic of CAI because it is my opinion that their primary purpose is not to help individual homeowners but to grow their billable hours, community management fees and some have said in collusion with developers.
Out of curiosity I have attended a few NRED seminars conducted by Sara E. Barry. In those seminars she has discussed and attempted to recruit those in attendance to write letters in support of some and against other provisions of past legislation, i.e. AB 182 and 183, and SB 350 (could be off a number or two on that one). In other words, a firm contracted with the NRED has lobbied in support of those past provisions that CAI favored. Seems like a conflict of interest to me? Maybe being a Virginian I don't get what passes for ethical around here?
The following excerpt was at the bottom of a recent email from Sara E. Barry announcing a NRED seminar schedule:
"I have attached CAI's fliers again for your use for educational classes for managers and the directors in January. I will be teaching a law class in Reno in January if anyone is desperate for law credits. Let me know and I will get you the information"
MY CONCLUSION--CAI TEACHES THE SEMINARS. NRED and CAI, the same.
Bruce
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Robroy33
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Bruce B,
Thank you for the information. You repeat what I have heard from other sources and also confirm what I have witnessed with NRED. The CAI attorneys run amok.
And yes, you are absolutely right about Sara Barry and her efforts to influence legislation. After all she work for Attorney Michael Schulman, a CAI attorney.
One thing, that I would like to point out. I have attended seminars with the Ombudsman and other NRED staff. They give actually give a different interpretation of what NRS 116 means than do the CAI trainers.
Bob Robey
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bbaxter44
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Bob:
Interesting. We all come to the same conclusions. Think about that for a minute. Who the hell am I? No one special, that's for sure. In fact, spend almost half the year in Idaho fishing and live at least 50 miles from Las Vegas in the bush (Logandale).
You were there in the hallway after the Commission for Common Interest Communities held their recent workshop. Perhaps you recall the commissioner's comments about needless rabble rousing? My conclusion is that he thinks we are a bunch of nuts that are simply making this stuff up. Nope, not even close. The institutionalized corruption is obvious to anyone that is willing to stick their heads up.
It is a scandal that taxpayer funded training is used to lobby for CAI favored legislation and against legislation that they don't find favorable.
Any federal interest in pursuing this one?
Bruce
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HighBeams
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That’s the $64,000,000 dollar question of the day; "Any Federal interest in pursuing this one?" Think about it. Every complaint that is recieved at NRED is first subjected to a personal interpretation as to whether on not it is a legitimate complaint. The recently retired Bruce Alitt was the biggest roadblocks as he would often make arbitrary decisions that were always against the homeowners and favored the Associations. If the complaint managed to pass muster after that, and it was assigned a case number, it was because there was much reason to believe that laws were violated, because the EVIDENCE provided with the complaint warranted investigation. The point is – if the Fed.’s ever took an interest there is TONS of evidence just languishing in the NRED’s files. Can you think of a word that describes that situation? I can. The word that comes to mind is "COVERUP". Why else would they try to paint EVERY ONE as a malcontent? |
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SamJudie
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I am posting this for Norm:
We have a terrible "Bully Board" led by a tyrant in Sun City Anthem. Every Board member is determined to keep the reins of power by any means possible, and they smother opposing views and opinions by labeling the residents as ¿malcontents¿ and ¿troublemakers¿. Instead of listening ¿ they threaten Instead of concern for the Seniors living here we get --- contempt. Instead of obeying the NRS statutes that supposed to protect us --- they lobby to make them even more outrageous Instead of compassion we get --- retaliation. It has to stop A-N-D it WILL stop thanks to the growing numbers of voices Our elected State officials have let us down. S-o-o-o-o- The growing numbers will vote them out.
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